It has been interesting to read everyone's reactions to this-I am surprised
by the strong emotions Mark's message stirred. I personally am grateful he
shared this story because it reminded me to reassess where, when and with
whom I box.
I need to buy a whistle. I keep "meaning" to, but still haven't and that is
plain irresponsible of me. My cell phone and my GPS are not very useful
deep in the woods where I am most likely to have trouble (and I can't use
that darn GPS anyhow!)
While I do box alone, I try to limit those trips to short, easy hikes in
"safer" locations and have learned to trust my instincts and be much more
alert to my surroundings-something easy to forget when wandering along
muttering over a page of clues.
I am not very good about telling someone where I am going. That will change
also.
I occasionally like to try and "cheat" the clues by not following the exact
route if I think I can short cut it. Or, instead of returning by the route
I took, I might try a short cut. As Mark's message pointed out, this can
lead to some dangerous situations.
So, instead of being offended that the note was entitled "NEVER box alone!"
I am instead reminded that I need to be realistic about my skills and my
abilities; that I need to use common sense; and that I need to be thankful
that there is a strong community of boxers willing to help me learn and grow
as a letterboxer by sharing their experiences .
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
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Boxing alone, lessons learned
17 messages in this thread |
Started on 2005-08-19
Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: pkleingers (pam@kleingers.net) |
Date: 2005-08-19 12:02:00 UTC-04:00
RE: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Mosey (PonyExpressMail@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-19 11:48:49 UTC-05:00
My reaction was posted to the newboxer list -- I didn't crosspost it here --
but for me, my reaction came because of the way the original post was
worded. Yes, I was a *little* offended at the wording -- it smacked of a
parent/child relationship. Being ordered *not* to do something under *any*
circumstances. And the person giving the order wasn't my parent, wasn't my
spouse, and wasn't my boss.
I think it would have been less rude if the poster had just said "Here's
something that happened to a single boxer the other day, so I'm putting out
a heads-up to everyone." There may be some children on the list, but I
think by far the majority of folks here are adults. Putting out a warning
using a current example goes further in my opinion than one adult giving
another adult an order -- unless maybe they happen to be their boss, spouse,
or parent -- people that *sometimes* one has to give more leeway to.
On the other hand, I realize that quite possibly, since the person in
trouble chose to call the poster and the poster was likely upset about the
person being in trouble with no way for the poster to really assist -- that
maybe the subject line and post were worded a bit strongly due to the
poster's emotions at the time. Which is why I was only a *little* offended.
:-)
I think it was definitely a good idea to post what happened. And I don't
think people necessarily posted because they were offended. I didn't. I
posted to explain why I *do* box alone and the precautions I take. The same
as I would tell my parents, if they were still alive, and gave me such an
order. I'd say "Dad, Mom, I'm 50+ years old now, here's why I box alone and
here are the precautions I take to be as safe as possible. I love you both."
:-)
~~ Mosey ~~
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of pkleingers
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:02 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
It has been interesting to read everyone's reactions to this-I am surprised
by the strong emotions Mark's message stirred. I personally am grateful he
shared this story because it reminded me to reassess where, when and with
whom I box.
I need to buy a whistle. I keep "meaning" to, but still haven't and that is
plain irresponsible of me. My cell phone and my GPS are not very useful
deep in the woods where I am most likely to have trouble (and I can't use
that darn GPS anyhow!)
While I do box alone, I try to limit those trips to short, easy hikes in
"safer" locations and have learned to trust my instincts and be much more
alert to my surroundings-something easy to forget when wandering along
muttering over a page of clues.
I am not very good about telling someone where I am going. That will change
also.
I occasionally like to try and "cheat" the clues by not following the exact
route if I think I can short cut it. Or, instead of returning by the route
I took, I might try a short cut. As Mark's message pointed out, this can
lead to some dangerous situations.
So, instead of being offended that the note was entitled "NEVER box alone!"
I am instead reminded that I need to be realistic about my skills and my
abilities; that I need to use common sense; and that I need to be thankful
that there is a strong community of boxers willing to help me learn and grow
as a letterboxer by sharing their experiences .
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
but for me, my reaction came because of the way the original post was
worded. Yes, I was a *little* offended at the wording -- it smacked of a
parent/child relationship. Being ordered *not* to do something under *any*
circumstances. And the person giving the order wasn't my parent, wasn't my
spouse, and wasn't my boss.
I think it would have been less rude if the poster had just said "Here's
something that happened to a single boxer the other day, so I'm putting out
a heads-up to everyone." There may be some children on the list, but I
think by far the majority of folks here are adults. Putting out a warning
using a current example goes further in my opinion than one adult giving
another adult an order -- unless maybe they happen to be their boss, spouse,
or parent -- people that *sometimes* one has to give more leeway to.
On the other hand, I realize that quite possibly, since the person in
trouble chose to call the poster and the poster was likely upset about the
person being in trouble with no way for the poster to really assist -- that
maybe the subject line and post were worded a bit strongly due to the
poster's emotions at the time. Which is why I was only a *little* offended.
:-)
I think it was definitely a good idea to post what happened. And I don't
think people necessarily posted because they were offended. I didn't. I
posted to explain why I *do* box alone and the precautions I take. The same
as I would tell my parents, if they were still alive, and gave me such an
order. I'd say "Dad, Mom, I'm 50+ years old now, here's why I box alone and
here are the precautions I take to be as safe as possible. I love you both."
:-)
~~ Mosey ~~
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of pkleingers
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:02 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
It has been interesting to read everyone's reactions to this-I am surprised
by the strong emotions Mark's message stirred. I personally am grateful he
shared this story because it reminded me to reassess where, when and with
whom I box.
I need to buy a whistle. I keep "meaning" to, but still haven't and that is
plain irresponsible of me. My cell phone and my GPS are not very useful
deep in the woods where I am most likely to have trouble (and I can't use
that darn GPS anyhow!)
While I do box alone, I try to limit those trips to short, easy hikes in
"safer" locations and have learned to trust my instincts and be much more
alert to my surroundings-something easy to forget when wandering along
muttering over a page of clues.
I am not very good about telling someone where I am going. That will change
also.
I occasionally like to try and "cheat" the clues by not following the exact
route if I think I can short cut it. Or, instead of returning by the route
I took, I might try a short cut. As Mark's message pointed out, this can
lead to some dangerous situations.
So, instead of being offended that the note was entitled "NEVER box alone!"
I am instead reminded that I need to be realistic about my skills and my
abilities; that I need to use common sense; and that I need to be thankful
that there is a strong community of boxers willing to help me learn and grow
as a letterboxer by sharing their experiences .
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
RE: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-19 17:30:18 UTC
Just a clarification:
My post was made in haste due to the circumstances. Those that know me, know that I would never force my will or dictate to anyone. That's just not me.
While a certain group of friends [Baker's Dozen] call me The Daddy, I realize that ultimately the decision rests on the individual.
Mark
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My post was made in haste due to the circumstances. Those that know me, know that I would never force my will or dictate to anyone. That's just not me.
While a certain group of friends [Baker's Dozen] call me The Daddy, I realize that ultimately the decision rests on the individual.
Mark
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Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: noydb910 (wrv77@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-19 19:22:26 UTC
Never box without an approved letterboxing helmet.
Re: [LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-19 19:49:52 UTC
Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
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Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: chris g. (lephantman13@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2005-08-19 19:55:00 UTC
I actually have an aversion to boxing, or usually hiking, with other
people. Most folks are too slow, or want to argue with me about where
to look for something, and I couldn't be bothered. And as far as
safety goes, I'm not about to wear a suit of armor. I just know to be
careful and keep my eyes peeled, the same mindset I had to have
walking home by myself at night in NYC. Everywhere has danger. Just
don't act stupid. Two can be mauled by a bear as easily as one.
-cg
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "noydb910" wrote:
> Never box without an approved letterboxing helmet.
Obnoxious, but classic
people. Most folks are too slow, or want to argue with me about where
to look for something, and I couldn't be bothered. And as far as
safety goes, I'm not about to wear a suit of armor. I just know to be
careful and keep my eyes peeled, the same mindset I had to have
walking home by myself at night in NYC. Everywhere has danger. Just
don't act stupid. Two can be mauled by a bear as easily as one.
-cg
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "noydb910"
> Never box without an approved letterboxing helmet.
Obnoxious, but classic
Re: [LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Hikers_n_ Hounds (hikers_n_hounds@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-19 14:07:26 UTC-07:00
Hey man! We had to get that stuff for the Rubbermaid Meets the Road Rally in April, due to a controlled dear hunt in Green Lane...oh nevermind...you had to be there....
mjpepe1@comcast.net wrote:
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RE: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-19 16:05:32 UTC-07:00
Mark,
When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
know that you aren't the dictator type.
I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
the victims of their own foolishness. When something
tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
protect everyone else around you from making a similar
mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
guilty of getting lax.
I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
think again about our safety when we are out there.
Lucy
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When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
know that you aren't the dictator type.
I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
the victims of their own foolishness. When something
tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
protect everyone else around you from making a similar
mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
guilty of getting lax.
I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
think again about our safety when we are out there.
Lucy
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Jim Plouffe (jimplouffe@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-19 19:31:36 UTC-04:00
Here, Here!!!
Or should I say ---- Hear, Hear!!!
Blax
Barefoot Lucy wrote:
> Mark,
>
> When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
> rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
> know that you aren't the dictator type.
>
> I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
> accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
> foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
> parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
> JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
> incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
> would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
> buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
> my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
> said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
> anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
> was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
> foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
> the victims of their own foolishness. When something
> tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
> protect everyone else around you from making a similar
> mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
> glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
> guilty of getting lax.
>
> I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
> the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
> think again about our safety when we are out there.
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
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Or should I say ---- Hear, Hear!!!
Blax
Barefoot Lucy wrote:
> Mark,
>
> When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
> rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
> know that you aren't the dictator type.
>
> I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
> accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
> foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
> parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
> JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
> incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
> would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
> buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
> my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
> said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
> anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
> was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
> foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
> the victims of their own foolishness. When something
> tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
> protect everyone else around you from making a similar
> mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
> glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
> guilty of getting lax.
>
> I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
> the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
> think again about our safety when we are out there.
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
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> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Gregory (naaman_7x@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-20 14:17:30 UTC
Having read all this safety stuff, I feel compelled to admit to a
grossly hypocrytical double standard I have with the people I care
about. It's ok for daddy to examine the snake more closely, but
100yards isn't far enough for family and friends.
It comes with the job, along with squashing innocent bugs, and
checking out mysterious noises at night, unclogging the toilet, and
taking the garbage to the curb during a lightning storm.
I should be a little more considerate, though. Leaving a note and
turning my cell phone on while I'm in the woods would be a good start.
grossly hypocrytical double standard I have with the people I care
about. It's ok for daddy to examine the snake more closely, but
100yards isn't far enough for family and friends.
It comes with the job, along with squashing innocent bugs, and
checking out mysterious noises at night, unclogging the toilet, and
taking the garbage to the curb during a lightning storm.
I should be a little more considerate, though. Leaving a note and
turning my cell phone on while I'm in the woods would be a good start.
Re: [LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Silent Doug (silentdoug@letterboxing.info) |
Date: 2005-08-20 11:39:18 UTC-04:00
At 03:49 PM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
>Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
:-)
SD
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http://www.letterboxing.info
>Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
:-)
SD
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: (StDebb@aol.com) |
Date: 2005-08-20 12:17:18 UTC-04:00
silentdoug@letterboxing.info writes:
>
> I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
>
That or asbestos!
DebBee
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>
> I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
>
That or asbestos!
DebBee
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Re: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Kurt Copeland (tabulator32@mac.com) |
Date: 2005-08-20 12:41:24 UTC-05:00
But that's what Daddies do! (Occupational hazzard)
: )
Kurt
On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 09:17 AM, Gregory wrote:
> Having read all this safety stuff, I feel compelled to admit to a
> grossly hypocrytical double standard I have with the people I care
> about. It's ok for daddy to examine the snake more closely, but
> 100yards isn't far enough for family and friends.
>
> It comes with the job, along with squashing innocent bugs, and
> checking out mysterious noises at night, unclogging the toilet, and
> taking the garbage to the curb during a lightning storm.
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
: )
Kurt
On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 09:17 AM, Gregory wrote:
> Having read all this safety stuff, I feel compelled to admit to a
> grossly hypocrytical double standard I have with the people I care
> about. It's ok for daddy to examine the snake more closely, but
> 100yards isn't far enough for family and friends.
>
> It comes with the job, along with squashing innocent bugs, and
> checking out mysterious noises at night, unclogging the toilet, and
> taking the garbage to the curb during a lightning storm.
>
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Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: aintnorock19 (cdf19@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-20 19:42:37 UTC
But the upside to having a bear find two of you is that one of you
doesn't have to outrun the bear, they merely need to outrun their
partner!
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "chris g."
wrote:
> I actually have an aversion to boxing, or usually hiking, with other
> people. Most folks are too slow, or want to argue with me about
where
> to look for something, and I couldn't be bothered. And as far as
> safety goes, I'm not about to wear a suit of armor. I just know to
be
> careful and keep my eyes peeled, the same mindset I had to have
> walking home by myself at night in NYC. Everywhere has danger.
Just
> don't act stupid. Two can be mauled by a bear as easily as one.
> -cg
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "noydb910" wrote:
> > Never box without an approved letterboxing helmet.
>
> Obnoxious, but classic
doesn't have to outrun the bear, they merely need to outrun their
partner!
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "chris g."
wrote:
> I actually have an aversion to boxing, or usually hiking, with other
> people. Most folks are too slow, or want to argue with me about
where
> to look for something, and I couldn't be bothered. And as far as
> safety goes, I'm not about to wear a suit of armor. I just know to
be
> careful and keep my eyes peeled, the same mindset I had to have
> walking home by myself at night in NYC. Everywhere has danger.
Just
> don't act stupid. Two can be mauled by a bear as easily as one.
> -cg
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "noydb910"
> > Never box without an approved letterboxing helmet.
>
> Obnoxious, but classic
Re: [LbNA] Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: aintnorock19 (cdf19@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-20 19:48:22 UTC
Reminds me of a West Wing episode when Zoe, the president's daughter
goes out with some of the staff - she winds up getting hit on by a
bunch of older college guys, and Josh hits her panic button which
summons the Secret Service. It was pretty comical, but when she
gets home, the President yells at her - not because he's mad, but
because he loves her so. Been there, done that. But we just have
to let our kids go make their own mistakes sometimes.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
wrote:
> Mark,
>
> When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
> rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
> know that you aren't the dictator type.
>
> I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
> accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
> foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
> parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
> JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
> incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
> would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
> buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
> my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
> said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
> anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
> was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
> foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
> the victims of their own foolishness. When something
> tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
> protect everyone else around you from making a similar
> mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
> glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
> guilty of getting lax.
>
> I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
> the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
> think again about our safety when we are out there.
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
goes out with some of the staff - she winds up getting hit on by a
bunch of older college guys, and Josh hits her panic button which
summons the Secret Service. It was pretty comical, but when she
gets home, the President yells at her - not because he's mad, but
because he loves her so. Been there, done that. But we just have
to let our kids go make their own mistakes sometimes.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> Mark,
>
> When I read your post, I read your urgency, not
> rudeness. Most folks have been around long enough to
> know that you aren't the dictator type.
>
> I remember when my friend's son died in a 3 wheeler
> accident. He was 10 years old and doing something
> foolish (let's not go off into the wisdom of his
> parents, or 3-wheelers, or anything else - this is
> JUST a comparison) and he lost his life. It was so
> incredibly frustrating to know that a little caution
> would have changed the whole scenario, and instead we
> buried a little boy on a New Year's Day. I yelled at
> my kids all day the day it happened, until one of them
> said, "Why are you so mad at us? We haven't done
> anything wrong!" When I stepped back, I realized I
> was reacting to the fact that kids in general do
> foolish things and my own kids could just as easily be
> the victims of their own foolishness. When something
> tragic or potentially tragic happens, you want to
> protect everyone else around you from making a similar
> mistake. It's natural and normal, and I, for one, was
> glad for the wake up call because I know I could be
> guilty of getting lax.
>
> I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm glad you posted
> the message you did. It's made me, and everyone else,
> think again about our safety when we are out there.
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Hikers_n_ Hounds (hikers_n_hounds@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 11:07:53 UTC-07:00
HA! GOOD ONE SD!!!!! I LOL.
Silent Doug wrote:At 03:49 PM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
>Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
:-)
SD
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>Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
:-)
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[LbNA] Re: Boxing alone, lessons learned
From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 21:53:48 UTC
That, and Asbestos Underwear...
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Silent Doug
wrote:
> At 03:49 PM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
> >Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
>
> I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
>
> :-)
>
> SD
>
>
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LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Silent Doug
wrote:
> At 03:49 PM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
> >Or Boxing Commission approved Kevlar clothing.
>
> I thought that Kevlar was only required when reading this list?
>
> :-)
>
> SD
>
>
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